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Vaerah Vahrokha
Minmatar Dark-Rising IT Alliance
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Posted - 2009.10.10 19:42:00 -
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Commendable efforts at eradicating the rotten out of the bank.
Hopefully once removed that, there'll still be something left. - Auditing and consulting
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Vaerah Vahrokha
Minmatar Dark-Rising IT Alliance
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Posted - 2009.10.11 11:10:00 -
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Nobody including myself and including you was clean in this entire dealing,
Well, the meme was: "we are a private institution..."
About Anastasia and those defending the "theft".
When you are a broker (EBANK played many effective - yet not named - roles including this) of some sort you get to know insider information.
Those taking advantage of insider information (if catched ofc) are incriminated. Description
Basically, you screwed up along with other people. You take it like a man and go down like them. Not flee like a scared lizard, leveraging on information and powers no outsider had.
- Auditing and consulting
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Vaerah Vahrokha
Minmatar Dark-Rising IT Alliance
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Posted - 2009.10.12 13:47:00 -
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Edited by: Vaerah Vahrokha on 12/10/2009 13:47:49
Originally by: Bruno George Ray, la Vista and the rest of the E Bank Board need a good butt kickin (ingame)
Ray? He's the guy digging in the dung to find out if there's something not rotten left to salvage. Not the one who pooped it. - Auditing and consulting
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Vaerah Vahrokha
Minmatar Dark-Rising IT Alliance
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Posted - 2009.10.12 13:56:00 -
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Originally by: Hexxx
Originally by: Vaerah Vahrokha Edited by: Vaerah Vahrokha on 12/10/2009 13:47:49
Originally by: Bruno George Ray, la Vista and the rest of the E Bank Board need a good butt kickin (ingame)
Ray? He's the guy digging in the dung to find out if there's something not rotten left to salvage. Not the one who pooped it.
I don't think that's going to dim the noise of the mob...
If anyone can fix EBANK, it's Ray. He's done a ton of work and his focus is incredible. He doesn't pull his punches either...I speak from experience and a sore jaw.
Imho it's intellectual honesty to be able and discern who did what, and who did not do what.
Putting all together and burn'em all on a pire is a typical mediocre idiot mob mentality. Those - you know - only able to laugh and deride, but never to do anything constructive or tangible or even relevant in their useless life. - Auditing and consulting
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Vaerah Vahrokha
Minmatar Dark-Rising IT Alliance
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Posted - 2009.10.12 16:21:00 -
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Edited by: Vaerah Vahrokha on 12/10/2009 16:24:33 Edited by: Vaerah Vahrokha on 12/10/2009 16:23:48
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On the other hand, there are many intelligent people who agree with the mob
Don't think so.
Intelligent people are by definition intelligent enough to evaluate the situations in a less "I want blood" and more analythical way.
The results of the analysis could be as harsh as those "by skin" but they'd come after actually examining the facts, not jumping in a fray because every other lemming does.
Edit: where the fu*k were all those wise men, when I was getting flamed months ago for asking for transparency and more and making friendly EBANK directors enemies? It's too easy to wake up and join the chorus when EBANK is down and when everyone is magically a retrospective prophet.
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Oh come on. And you think it would be much more intelligent for the "idiot mob" to take at face value all posts and threads on these forums in defence of the integrity of EBank, in light of events over the last few months. Get real.
All doubt, cynicicm, criticism and skepticism expressed on these forums is entirely justified in light of the circumstances.
No, because regardless of the EBANK specific case, they'd post the same exaggerated exultant generalization for any other initiative in difficulty. Like a mob, happy that someone "high" fell / failed / got in ruin. "See, I told you ah ah ah! *rubs hands*".
Because they never succeeded at something relevant themselves, never stepped up at something (potentially) dangerous and great, and their only consolation is to see someone else fall down. To tell them "so in the end you are as bad as I am!"
Meager consolation, to bring down others at the own level instead of pouring efforts at raising the self level.
- Auditing and consulting
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Vaerah Vahrokha
Minmatar Dark-Rising IT Alliance
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Posted - 2009.10.12 20:33:00 -
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And by the way your use of "intelligent" here is some degree of strongarming. The "intelligent/lemming" contrast is not a real distinction in your characterization, but just rhetoric that tries to nudge people into trusting ray/anyone in ebank.
Now, it's the time when you eve-search what nice words Ray and me exchanged in the past (or most EBANK directors who I called in to account for their opacity for months) and STFU instead of pretending I "nudge" people in trusting anyone.
- Auditing and consulting
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Vaerah Vahrokha
Minmatar Dark-Rising IT Alliance
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Posted - 2009.10.14 16:56:00 -
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Stuff about KIA and the corp steal
I am honestly surprised people act like this was not known.
Didn't we even get an EvE News coverage exactly about what happened (time ago)? - Auditing and consulting
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Vaerah Vahrokha
Minmatar Dark-Rising IT Alliance
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Posted - 2009.10.15 08:40:00 -
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Edited by: Vaerah Vahrokha on 15/10/2009 08:42:21
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From my standpoint, I see two guilty parties, reparations are being sought from both.
I see 3 guilty parties:
- KIA who provided for a name and thus a surrogate guarantee for a corporation that would not have otherwise been able to access to the credit.
- The fraudolent corporation. The fun thing is, they are the only ones who "played EvE" (that is they did the expected off an unknown: grab stuff and flee).
- EBANK who gave unsecured loans, repeatedly. This against their interest and against basic principles of "if a loan ends successfully you earn a bit, if it defaults you lose a LOT".
Now, RL shadow banks had a rather large return for their beyond risky practices. EBANK went beyond CDSs and SIVs risk, EBANK never benefitted on derivatives levers nor risk trading. They just gave 100% secure securities away for a promise of repayment.
This is as an inexcusable practice as not keeping accounting was, if not worse.
Edit: what was the BoD doing when multi-hundreds billions were just handed away? Why didn't they immediately resign if Ricdic was forcing the bank like that? - Auditing and consulting
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Vaerah Vahrokha
Minmatar Dark-Rising IT Alliance
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Posted - 2009.10.19 11:00:00 -
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Nothing is ever as obvious as you think
This should be the subtitle for this forum. - Auditing and consulting
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